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Published · transcript-backedDiane Penn: evaluation
26 Jul 2026 Lenny's Podcast Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn
“In 2023 when I started, nobody said Anthropic and Claude and coding in the same sentence.”
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- Diane Penn
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- 26 Jul 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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In 2023 when I started, nobody said Anthropic and Claude and coding in the same sentence. I want to go back to the beginning of Anthropic. I remember feeling, "Man, these guys have no chance. OpenAI is so far ahead."…
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