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Demis Hassabis: belief

28 Feb 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Demis Hassabis — Scaling, superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, AlphaFold

“I think the next versions of this over the next year, 18 months, we’ll maybe have some contextual understanding of the environment around you through a camera or a phone or some glasses.”

— Demis Hassabis

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Speaker
Demis Hassabis
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
28 Feb 2024
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Let’s talk about Gemini. So now you guys have the best model in the world. I’m curious. The default way to interact with these systems has been through chat so far. Now that we have multimodal and all these new capabilities, how do you anticipate that changing? Do you think that’ll still be the case? I think we’re just at the beginning of actually understanding how exciting that might be to interact with a full multimodal model system. It’ll be quite different from what we’re used to today with the chatbots. I think the next versions of this over the next year, 18 months, we’ll maybe have some contextual understanding of the environment around you through a camera or a phone or some glasses. I could imagine that as the next step. And then I think we’ll start becoming more fluid in understanding “let’s sample from a video, let’s use voice.” Maybe even eventually things like touch and if you think about robotics, other types of sensors. So I think the world’s about to become very exciting in the next few years as we start getting used to the idea of what true multimodality means. On the robotics subject, when he was on the podcast Ilya said that the reason OpenAI gave up on robotics was because they didn’t have enough data in that domain, at least at the time they were pursuing it. You guys have put out different things like Robo-Transformer and other things. Do you think that’s still a bottleneck for robotics progress, or will we see progress in the world of atoms as well as the world of bits?…

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