High Signal Podcasts Evidence ledger
Method
Browse
← Back to evidence

Evidence receipt / belief

Published · transcript-backed

Ben Westhoff: belief

9 Oct 2019 Conversations with Tyler Ben Westhoff on Synthetic Drugs, Dive Bars, and the Evolution of Rap

“There were, yeah. I think people probably like KRS-One. A lot of these big boosters in New York saw it, but really, the executives were the ones who dropped the ball.”

— Ben Westhoff

Source trail

Everything needed to verify it.

Speaker
Ben Westhoff
Attribution
Verified speaker
Claim type
belief
Recorded
9 Oct 2019
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

Transcript context

…If we go back to the very early days of rap music, say the very early 1980s, I think a lot of people at the time figured, “Well, this is a new trend. It might last five to ten years, or even just three to four years, and then be gone.” Was there anyone who foresaw that come 2019, rap might be the single biggest thing in popular music? There were, yeah. I think people probably like KRS-One. A lot of these big boosters in New York saw it, but really, the executives were the ones who dropped the ball. NWA couldn’t get a record deal, for example, and everyone still thought — this was already the late ’80s — and people still thought this thing was going to peter out any minute. In your account, why hasn’t it exhausted itself? If it has relatively few dimensions of musical talent — well maintaining the beat, choosing the music to go behind what you’re rapping — why is it still so fresh and vital?…

Stored transcript either side of the excerpt. The highlighted words are the published quote; the surrounding text is unedited source, never generated.

Search evidence