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Joe Carlsmith: belief

22 Aug 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Joe Carlsmith — Preventing an AI takeover

“"I'm inclined to think that utopia, however weird, would also be in a certain sense recognizable; that if we really understood and experienced it, we would see in it the same thing that made us sit bolt upright long ago when we first touched love, joy, beauty; that we would feel in front of the bonfire the heat of the ember from which it was lit. There would be, I think, a kind of remembering.”

— Joe Carlsmith

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Speaker
Joe Carlsmith
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
22 Aug 2024
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…You had a passage in your essay on utopia. Can I ask you to read that passage real quick? "I'm inclined to think that utopia, however weird, would also be in a certain sense recognizable; that if we really understood and experienced it, we would see in it the same thing that made us sit bolt upright long ago when we first touched love, joy, beauty; that we would feel in front of the bonfire the heat of the ember from which it was lit. There would be, I think, a kind of remembering. " Where does that fit into this picture?…

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