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Lex Fridman: belief

13 Jun 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #433 – Sara Walker: Physics of Life, Time, Complexity, and Aliens

“I think that understanding of what life is in the way you’re doing will help us disentangle that.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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belief
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13 Jun 2024
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Just that. We’re not being too philosophical, like “Here’s the thing that moves, and here’s the thing that doesn’t move,” but maybe consciousness precedes that. It’s a weird dance there, is life precede consciousness or consciousness precede life. I think that understanding of what life is in the way you’re doing will help us disentangle that. Depending on what you want to explain, as I was saying before, you have to assume something’s fundamental. Because people can’t explain consciousness, there’s a temptation for some people to want to take consciousness as fundamental and assume everything else is derived out of that. Then you get some people that want to assume consciousness preceded life. I don’t find either of those views particularly illuminating because I don’t want to assume a feminology before I explain a thing. What I’ve tried really hard to do is not assume that I think life is anything except hold on to the patterns and structures that seem to be the sort of consistent ways that we talk about this thing. Then try to build a physics that describes that. I think that’s a really different approach than saying, “Consciousness is this thing we all feel and experience about things.” I would want to understand irregularities associated with that and build a deeper structure underneath that and build into it. I wouldn’t want to assume that thing and that I understand that thing, which is usually how I see people talk about it,…

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