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Louis Knight-Webb: evaluation

8 Nov 2023 Latent Space AGI is Being Achieved Incrementally (OpenAI DevDay w/ Simon Willison, Alex Volkov, Jim Fan, Raza Habib, Shreya Rajpal, Rahul Ligma, et al)

“The flip side of that argument is like, maybe it's very scary that we know, like now many more people understand the, the mistakes that these, these types of systems can make because we're all getting hands on with, with GPT, and this system is equally as problematic, and we're just oblivious to it because it's a black box.”

— Louis Knight-Webb

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Louis Knight-Webb
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evaluation
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8 Nov 2023
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Latent Space

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…at. talking for, I've seen some, stuff. I think based on the definition OpenAI, you know, released today, We tick all the boxes, and I think we were one of the earliest adopters of that. If that's the I don't think it's important to users. I don't think, I don't think that's why people use the product. I mean, we're very solutions focused. I think we, we start, a lot of our branding in at the start of the year was about models and, and, you know, we put GPT 4, GPT 3 right there on the front page and now, you know, we've, we've kind of... Reoriented to be more about solutions. I think that that reflects kind of maturity of the the ICP We're going after and where we are with with Loads of really interesting ones. I had a fascinating talk with some safety researchers who They were here? They, so there's a couple of people who were kind of PhD students who had kind of looked at adversarial attacks through fine tuning of models and found that, basically, like, it's such a hard problem to solve. If you enable fine tuning, it's basically impossible or very difficult to to make it so that you can't disable all the safety features. You can just train it to spit out all sorts of stuff. So that was pretty fascinating. I'm pretty excited about the Waymo we're in right now. Oh Haven't been looking at the road the whole time. Is this your first Waymo? It is my first Waymo actually, yes. Thank you for taking my Waymo video. But I know glad, gotta experience this together. I've been a cruise stand the whole time until they ran over someone . So my, so, so my take on cruise, like sample size, 10 cruise journeys before they got shut down and. The three of them resulted in something popping up on the screen saying that I had been in a collision. And... And so it was the same situation almost every time, which was a car was in front trying to pass you. And I think they just maybe bumped fenders, or maybe the crash detection was clear. Oh, there was actual contact. I think, in one of the cases, I think there was. In the other two, I didn't feel anything. But it came up saying, like, you've been in a collision, and somebody comes over the intercom things like that. So, yeah, I mean, out of, you know, ten rides, and three of them ended like that. So I think, yeah, definitely some questions there. But this way moves pretty smooth. day, that's a really good point. I noticed that all of the ones I took at night, all of the cruises I took at night were fine, and when I took one during rush hour, it was a completely different experience, because the routes it would take, it had this really aggressive, maybe traffic management, something that was going on, so it'd take a long time to get from A to B. It's solved in San Francisco, where you've got wide open roads, nobody cycles, and... ly aggressive, maybe traffic management, something that was going on, so it'd take a long time to get from A to B. It's solved in San Francisco, where you've got wide open roads, nobody cycles, and... I mean, compared to like, compared to London, where you've got, you know, roads half the size, built for horse and carriage, and millions of cyclists, and buses, and all sorts. So I think, you know, it's going to be a long time until we have that same experience of a cruise or Waymo today, London. But, like, and it seems like the stuff that we do in the rest of our lives in terms of AI automation is so primitive compared to this, which is the car that we're sitting in right now. And I find that weird. I find, like, the relative ease, or the relative, like, here ness of this technology is very disparate. Like, how come it didn't trickle down from self driving to the rest of tech? Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? Well, I don't know how those pipelines are built. I assume that's the secret sauce, right? The flip side of that argument is like, maybe it's very scary that we know, like now many more people understand the, the mistakes that these, these types of systems can make because we're all getting hands on with, with GPT, and this system is equally as problematic, and we're just oblivious to it because it's a black box. Almost at for walking directions.…

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