Evidence receipt / evaluation
Published · transcript-backedAndrej Karpathy: evaluation
17 Oct 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away
“We have some very early agents that are extremely impressive and that I use daily—Claude and Codex and so on—but I still feel there’s so much work to be done.”
Source trail
Everything needed to verify it.
- Speaker
- Andrej Karpathy
- Attribution
- Verified speaker
- Claim type
- evaluation
- Recorded
- 17 Oct 2025
- Publisher
- Dwarkesh Podcast
Transcript context
…Today I’m speaking with Andrej Karpathy. Andrej, why do you say that this will be the decade of agents and not the year of agents? First of all, thank you for having me here. I’m excited to be here. The quote you’ve just mentioned, “It’s the decade of agents,” is actually a reaction to a pre-existing quote. I’m not actually sure who said this but they were alluding to this being the year of agents with respect to LLMs and how they were going to evolve. I was triggered by that because there’s some over-prediction going on in the industry. In my mind, this is more accurately described as the decade of agents. We have some very early agents that are extremely impressive and that I use daily—Claude and Codex and so on—but I still feel there’s so much work to be done. My reaction is we’ll be working with these things for a decade. They’re going to get better, and it’s going to be wonderful. I was just reacting to the timelines of the implication. What do you think will take a decade to accomplish? What are the bottlenecks?…
Stored transcript either side of the excerpt. The highlighted words are the published quote; the surrounding text is unedited source, never generated.
Named in this claim