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Annie Jacobsen: evaluation

6 Aug 2025 Conversations with Tyler Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War, Intelligence Operations, and Conspiracy Realities

“Because if you’re going to prejudge someone based on what you “read” or heard on a podcast, that is dangerous.”

— Annie Jacobsen

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Annie Jacobsen
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evaluation
Recorded
6 Aug 2025
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Conversations with Tyler

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…No, I’m fine with deep state. It’s this negative thing, but a lot of these words get inverted. Let’s just call them the deep state. I don’t mind. Some of it’s bad, but some of it’s good. Listen, I spend time with people who others view as everything from a twirling-mustache bad guy to a savior. And I’m not dodging the question here; I’m trying to be earnest in my reportage, how I work with people. That has to do with the fact that I try to be agnostic going into interviews, as I would wish one would be with me, meaning not . . . Because if you’re going to prejudge someone based on what you “read” or heard on a podcast, that is dangerous. Yes, but I want your post judgment, right?…

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