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Dario Amodei: belief

13 Feb 2026 Dwarkesh Podcast Dario Amodei — "We are near the end of the exponential"

“Again, I’m making much weaker claims here than I believe, to distinguish between two things.”

— Dario Amodei

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Speaker
Dario Amodei
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
13 Feb 2026
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Even if generalization is weak and you can only do verifiable domains, it’s not clear to me you could automate software engineering in such a world. You are “a software engineer” in some sense, but part of being a software engineer for you involves writing long memos about your grand vision. I don’t think that’s part of the job of SWE. That’s part of the job of the company, not SWE specifically. But SWE does involve design documents and other things like that. The models are already pretty good at writing comments. Again, I’m making much weaker claims here than I believe, to distinguish between two things. We’re already almost there for software engineering. By what metric? There’s one metric which is how many lines of code are written by AI. If you consider other productivity improvements in the history of software engineering, compilers write all the lines of software. There’s a difference between how many lines are written and how big the productivity improvement is. “We’re almost there” meaning… How big is the productivity improvement, not just how many lines are written by AI?…

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