Bronson Schoen: recommendation

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…Well, somebody has listened to us this far. There's a decent chance they might wanna come work with you. I assume everybody's hiring. Apollo's hiring. I could take that as a baseline. What makes somebody good at your kind of work? How what would you look for in a teammate? I think mostly just I would encourage people even if they have a traditional software engineering background or some other background in support of tech or something and are really excited about working on this and really interested in it to check it out and apply. Even if you don't think Haul is a great fit, there are lot of AI safety things that are tailored toward onboarding people and getting people up to speed on it. For my own history, I was at Apple and then in NVIDIA working on self driving stuff before at Apollo. I So think it's there's no one who has twenty years of experience in AI safety. So if you're interested in now, I think I would really encourage people to to try it out. I think it's also just a very interesting and dynamic field. As far as we work a lot with labs, the thing that we're working on changes a lot. There's a lot of as people might have heard in this conversation, there's it's just a very weird field in being a mix of you're implementing and experimenting with things. You're doing research. You're also doing a weird amount of thinking about, like, how cognition works or all of these very abstract things. I I would encourage people to just explore options in the space of pre AI safety, find programs at whatever level you're interested in, and the biggest thing being, like, not to rule yourself out of applying to things even if you expect that your skill set or anything is very different, especially given that if you've done a lot of work with engine decoding or things like this, the kind of barrier to entry is somewhat lower than than it might have previously been. Yep. Yeah. Never been a better time to be an ideas person. I would assume that close reading and just, like, extreme attention to detail would be, like, very high on your skills requirements list.…

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