Tony Fadell: evaluation

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…I love how much fun you're having. Is there anything else you wanted to share that we didn't cover? We should really just talk about ethics and morals and your point of view on that. And as a product manager, as a product designer, you need to really consider these things. I understand we have lots of big questions about AI and is it going to be a disaster for the next generation and for societies and all the other stuff? But I think that you really need to be well grounded and have real principles when you're designing something, and don't let those things go astray, just like you wouldn't go astray with a bad user interface or something like that. Make sure you're not trying to addict your users. And if anybody is, there's always other jobs, and there's always other better companies, and don't chase the money for tearing apart what it is the fabric of this society that we built. Obviously, there's going to be innovation, and there's going to be change, but when you're really doing it, and you can see that you're doing it, and you're trying to get people hooked, or you're like, "Oh, I give more dopamine or what have you." That's when you have to start really looking at things. And a lot of times, people are young, and they think, "Oh, that's great. That's what I want." But when you start to have kids, and you start to have families, and you start to see the... And you're not just about you; you're not trying to just get out of your family when you were growing up. I'm an individual, and I want what I want. You really need to start thinking systemically about the benefit that you're bringing to this society as a whole, not just to the business that you're in and trying to bring in whatever revenue you're trying to do because at the end of the day, users will feel that and then I think and will reward that as we see with Apple with privacy and people say, "Oh, they're behind because they're so private and there's this. " But it's a double-edged sword. I remember when we had a very pointed discussion when the iTunes music store and when it was turning into video was being specified and what we were thinking about it, and everyone's like, "Oh, this is going to be great. We're going to do movies. We're going to do TV shows. That's going to all be great. We're going to make a lot of money with this in the studios. Everybody's behind it." And then somebody goes, "Yeah, and we should have porn, of course." Steve was like, "What? Is that the kind of world you want your kids to grow up in? And Apple is related with that and Apple's about... Is that what we want to do?" And it was very clear, it was shut down, and we need leaders like that. We need leaders who are very clear as opposed to "I'm going to make a huge service for everyone." And they're all sex chatbots for everyone. I just think when you start normalizing those things, and you start telling other generations that's a value and you start... And I understand that everyone has their own what's right and what's wrong. And here I am, the old guy, again, I think we can go a little too far. ing other generations that's a value and you start... And I understand that everyone has their own what's right and what's wrong. And here I am, the old guy, again, I think we can go a little too far. I'm for individual rights and for everyone to be a thing, but when major companies are doing this in the guise of certain kinds of behaviors they're trying to achieve, when we're selling... We're turning personal connection into a product with AI chatbots and making them really devolve social interaction to the point where I'm going to have a perfect interaction with this thing because the world is so messy, it's like we're losing humanity with that, and we're just for gain. So I wish that the other product designers out there really take it to heart. I'm not saying you got to be Lily White and being in a church every weekend and Bible banging. I'm not saying that; I'm not MAGA. I'm not any of that stuff, just saying, hey, think about it.…

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