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Published · transcript-backedCaitlin Kalinowski: belief
17 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast Why we’re at the beginning of the AI hardware boom | Caitlin Kalinowski (ex–OpenAI, Meta, Apple)
“I think the message is understanding why you're doing what you're doing, and then every design decision supporting that goal. And that requires a lot of detail, and it requires a lot of persistence, and that requires a lot of consistency, but understanding why you're doing what you're doing and what the end goal is is, I think, the key, and letting that expand into not only the software and the UX, but also the hardware.”
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- Caitlin Kalinowski
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- 17 May 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
Transcript context
…So on lesson I'm hearing here is being very detail-oriented. I don't know if that's the right word, just like, focus on every element of the end product. Because to your point, it's not just about that back of the cabinet, but I think about, it's like the brown M&M story, where like a band puts in the contract, you have to have brand M&Ms in the room, because that means they read it and it's not like the M&Ms matter, it's a test that they read the thing. And is that kind of the message there? I think the message is understanding why you're doing what you're doing, and then every design decision supporting that goal. And that requires a lot of detail, and it requires a lot of persistence, and that requires a lot of consistency, but understanding why you're doing what you're doing and what the end goal is is, I think, the key, and letting that expand into not only the software and the UX, but also the hardware. What's an example of that, just to make it more concrete for us?…
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