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Dario Amodei: belief

11 Nov 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #452 – Dario Amodei: Anthropic CEO on Claude, AGI & the Future of AI & Humanity

“I think that’s a mixture of things that are unnecessary in bureaucratic and things that kind of protect the integrity of society.”

— Dario Amodei

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Dario Amodei
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belief
Recorded
11 Nov 2024
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…So humans fundamentally has to be part of the loop. That’s the cause of the ceiling, not maybe the limits of the intelligence. Yeah, I think in many cases, in theory, technology could change very fast. For example, all the things that we might invent with respect to biology, but remember, there’s a clinical trial system that we have to go through to actually administer these things to humans. I think that’s a mixture of things that are unnecessary in bureaucratic and things that kind of protect the integrity of society. And the whole challenge is that it’s hard to tell what’s going on. It’s hard to tell which is which. I think in terms of drug development, my view is that we’re too slow and we’re too conservative. But certainly if you get these things wrong, it’s possible to risk people’s lives by being too reckless. And so at least some of these human institutions are in fact protecting people. So it’s all about finding the balance. I strongly suspect that balance is kind of more on the side of wishing to make things happen faster, but there is a balance. If we do hit a limit, if we do hit a slowdown in the scaling laws, what do you think would be the reason? Is it compute-limited, data-limited? Is it something else? Idea limited?…

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