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Published · transcript-backedDean Ball: belief
20 Jun 2026 The Cognitive Revolution Dean Ball, on Joining OpenAI: New Power Centers, Frontier AI Policy, & Main Character Energy
“You know, I, I, I've, I've, I've... It's never been a huge problem for me, I guess I would say.”
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- Dean Ball
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- 20 Jun 2026
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- The Cognitive Revolution
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…... still be number one. Sam Altman would be very high on that list, maybe number two. How do you think about joining such a famously complicated leadership team? Well, I mean, you know, I've, I've, uh, I've done it before. I've, I've been involved in such organizations before, and it's always, um... You know, I, I, I've, I've, I've... It's never been a huge problem for me, I guess I would say. Um, I don't... So I, I know Sam okay, I would say. Um, we s- have, um... I don't remember the first time we met. Um, we spoke from time to time, uh, when I was a public commentator before I joined government. Um, we spoke from time to time about various things as I was trying to formulate the action plan. Um, I know a lot of people at OpenAI, um, that are, like, executive level people. You know, I've had extensive dealings with various executive level people who are beneath Sam. Uh, but Sam himself, um, yeah, we know each other, we've known each other decently well. We've been acquaintances for probably 18 to 24 months, something like that. But I wouldn't say that we're, like, boys. Before you joined the White House, you told me that you wrote a letter to yourself.…
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