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Diane Penn: belief

26 Jul 2026 Lenny's Podcast Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn

“Most traders, I think, are in front of a terminal. They're much more doing analyses on their computers, but it's still very, I would say, male-dominated.”

— Diane Penn

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Diane Penn
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belief
Recorded
26 Jul 2026
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…Oh my God. Okay. Final question. I was poking at your LinkedIn. You were a high yield bond trader at JP Morgan Chase early in your career. You have this redacted $100 million trading portfolio of some kind. What did you learn from that time in your life that has stuck with you? And/or is there a crazy story from that period? It was four years of your life. I think I learned, actually, a lot that I applied here at Anthropic and other jobs thereafter. So when I was at JP Morgan, the trading floor, you could envision Wolf of Wall Street. That's very different. Most traders, I think, are in front of a terminal. They're much more doing analyses on their computers, but it's still very, I would say, male-dominated. And so I was the only woman. I was the only person with my background on the trading desk. And I learned that there was a very good environment to building one, my sense of authentic self. And two, that even if I was the most junior person, even if I may look different, that the best ideas and having conviction in the best ideas, irregardless of all of those other factors, is the most important thing. And so I think just bring that sense of how I show up more at work. I'm pretty vulnerable and authentic with my team. I try to really make sure that, regardless of people's levels or tenures, if they have a great idea, how to help them pursue that and to do also the same. So to put the idea out there, to actually have conviction in it, to do the follow through, to do the nitty-gritty work to make it happen. So those are all things that I learned from trading. And yeah, I think applies to any job in many ways. That is beautiful. Where can people find you online if they want to follow you? And how can listeners be useful to you?…

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