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16 Feb 2025 Lenny's Podcast A founder’s guide to crisis management | Uri Levine (Waze co-founder, serial entrepreneur)
“One other thing that you might want to do is actually tell the people that we will be running out of cash in two month. And number one, I want you to help me even if we run out of cash because there are good chances that we eventually will be able to raise capital and recover that.”
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- 16 Feb 2025
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…That's a great answer. I want to come back to something you said that I think is so important but so hard, which is to act fast. If I was a founder, something changes in the market, it's easy to say, "Okay, you need to cut burn, you need go raise money, down round." It's so hard to do, to lay people off, to do all these challenging things for your company. Can you again just help people understand why it's so important to act fast? You talked about optionality goes away. Just like what actually happens there if you don't? So I'll give you an example. So let's say that you are almost run out of cash and you believe that you're going to raise capital in the next two month. And if not, then you run out of cash. One of the things that you might want to do is extend the run rate. One other thing that you might want to do is actually tell the people that we will be running out of cash in two month. And number one, I want you to help me even if we run out of cash because there are good chances that we eventually will be able to raise capital and recover that. And number two, in order to get your support and belief in the company I am going to offer you more equity. So, the more equity is something that I will do twice, once today, once you realize that this is going to be challenging, and then again if we need to ask people to reduce their salary or do something dramatic around that. And the first one is actually preventive action. So you share the know-how, you share the challenges that we are going to face. And you demonstrate generosity not out of you have to, but you demonstrate that. And then you essentially dramatically increase their loyalty and their commitment. And when you will need them, they will be there. So this is one example. The other example is about calculating end of cash. And this is really, really important. So let's say that you have run rate of X month, six month. If you reduce burn by 50% today, then you simply increase your run rate to a year. If you don't do it today and you wait three more month, then you only can do that for the ... so the first three month you burn the same way that you did up until now, and now you reduce that to half, so you have six more month, total of nine month. If you decided today that you need 12 month, and you don't act today, you will never have 12 month. Now, is that the only way to do that? No, it's not the only way, but it's one of the ways that by the way most companies will do. So they will reduce burn rate today in order to extend the run rate. Is that going to be more helpful? Don't know. Really depending on the case. If you had asked me if you reduce the burn rate, increase the run rate, so now you have 12 month to raise new capital, is that going to have higher likelihood of remaining with the current plan and growth and raise capital within six month? I don't know that. But this is exactly the decision that you need to make. That's a really great way of putting it. Just the math means the leverage you have now to extend runway is so much higher the sooner you make the decision. And the key, just going back to your algorithm of deciding if we need to act in this way quickly, is first think about what's being impacted, then how long is this impact going to last, and then how long do I have before you run out of money. And those questions is your advice for deciding, do we let people go now, do we raise money now.…
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