Boris Cherny: belief

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…A lot of people listening to this are product managers and they're probably sweating. I think by the end of the year everyone is going to be a product manager, and everyone codes. The title software engineer is going to start to go away. It's just going to be replaced by builder, and it's going to be painful for a lot of people. Today my guest is Boris Cherny, head of Claude Code at Anthropic. It is hard to describe the impact that Claude Code has had on the world. Around the time this episode comes out will be the one year anniversary of Claude Code. And in that short time it has completely transformed the job of a software engineer, and it is now starting to transform the jobs of many other functions in tech, which we talk about. Claude Code itself is also a massive driver of Anthropic's overall growth over the past year. They just raised a round at over $350 billion. And as Boris mentions, the growth of Claude Code itself is still accelerating. Just in the past month, their daily active users has doubled. Boris is also just a really interesting, thoughtful, deep-thinking human, and during this conversation we discover we were born in the same city in Ukraine. That is so funny. I had no idea. A huge thank you to Ben Mann, Jenny Wen, and Mike Krieger for suggesting topics for this conversation. Don't forget to check out LennysProductPass.com for an incredible set of deals available exclusively to Lenny's newsletter subscribers. Let's get into it after a short word from our wonderful sponsors. Today's episode is brought to you by DX, the developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers. To thrive in the AI era, organizations need to adapt quickly, but many organization leaders struggle to answer pressing questions like, "Which tools are working? How are they being used? What's actually driving value?" DX provides the data and insights that leaders need to navigate the shift. With DX, companies like Dropbox, Booking.com, Adeon, and Intercom get a deep understanding of how AI is providing value to their developers and what impact AI is having on engineering productivity. To learn more, visit DX's website at GetDX.com/Lenny. That's GetDX.com/Lenny. Applications break in all kinds of ways: crashes, slowdowns, regressions, and the stuff that you only see once real users show up. Scntry catches it all. See what happened where and why down to the commit that introduced the error, the developer who shipped it, and the exact line of code all in one connected view. I have definitely tried the five tabs and Slack thread approach to debugging. This is better. Scntry shows you how the request moved, what ran, what slowed down, and what users saw. Seer, Scntry's AI debugging agent takes it from there. It uses all of that Scntry context to tell you the root cause, suggest a fix, and even opens a PR for you. It also reviews your PRs and flags any breaking changes with fixes ready to go. Try Scntry and Seer for free at Scntry.AO/Lenny, and use code LENNY for $100 in Scntry credits. That's S-C-N-T-R-Y dot A-O slash Lenny. Boris, thank you so much for being here, and welcome to the podcast.…

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