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Wing Lian: uncertainty

8 Dec 2023 Latent Space The Busy Person's Intro to Finetuning & Open Source AI - Wing Lian, Axolotl

“I believe, Hermes was, is like a quarter million rows of data, I don't know the actual byte size on that particular one.”

— Wing Lian

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Speaker
Wing Lian
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Claim type
uncertainty
Recorded
8 Dec 2023
Publisher
Latent Space

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…Interesting. So, I mean, there's, there's so much there that I want to highlight, but yeah. Orca is interesting. I do want people to know about it. Putting chain of thought into the data set like it's just makes a ton of sense one thing I think it would be helpful for people to scope thing these things out is how much data are we talking about when when you When people are fine tuning and then how much time or resources or money does it take to train to fine tune? Yeah, so I think there's a little bit of overlap there with sort of like fine tuning techniques, but let's say Orca and I think even Hermes, they're both relatively large data sets like 10 billion tokens. Yeah. So large data sets being or the original Orca was, or the original open Orca was 800,000 rows. I believe it was somewhere in the ballpark of like a gigabyte of data, of gigabyte, of text data. And I, I don't. I believe, Hermes was, is like a quarter million rows of data, I don't know the actual byte size on that particular one. So, going and training a, let's, let's say everybody's training 7 billion Mistral right now, right? So, to tri I, I believe to fine tune 7 billion Mistral on, let's say, 8 A6000s, which have 48 gigabytes of VRAM, I believe, It takes about 40 hours, so 40, and then that's, depending on where you get your compute, 40 times 6, so it's like 500 to fine tune that model, so, and, and that's assuming you get it right the first time, right? So, you know. Is, is that something that X. Lotto handles, like, getting it right the first…

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