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Published · transcript-backedDiane Penn: belief
26 Jul 2026 Lenny's Podcast Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn
“We know that the models could write great essays or could write long form writing, but individual pain points of what can you actually solve with that and bring it to a user level that people can use, I think is something that is more exploration or experimentation based.”
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- Diane Penn
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- 26 Jul 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…It's so interesting. Yeah, this idea that we're not sure what this is capable of or what we could do with it. And it takes all this poking around and people trying things, hearing what other people are trying to figure out what's possible. Such an interesting, I don't know, technology. We're just like, okay, here's what... Oh, I figured out it could do this thing. What are you going to do with that? I think in a broad theme we know. We know that the models could write great essays or could write long form writing, but individual pain points of what can you actually solve with that and bring it to a user level that people can use, I think is something that is more exploration or experimentation based. So following this thread, you oversee product for the Labs team, which is extremely cool. We've had Ben Mann on the podcast, Mike Krieger, whom both work on Labs now. Talk about Labs. What is Labs? What's come out of Labs? Many people have heard of these things. And how do they work that enables them to create such innovative ideas outside of even the core Anthropic product team?…
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