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Michael Nielsen: belief

29 May 2024 Conversations with Tyler Michael Nielsen on Collaboration, Quantum Computing, and Civilization's Fragility

“I think over the long term, the most important of those was, for many years I would have said Illich.”

— Michael Nielsen

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Michael Nielsen
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belief
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29 May 2024
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Conversations with Tyler

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…That’s a good thing, right? It gave me a real way of expressing that, and they dealt with me very patiently. I think over the long term, the most important of those was, for many years I would have said Illich. I’d maybe still say Illich. Basically, his point — it’s about the question of what’s the relationship between human beings and institutions, and how paternalistic are those institutions towards the humans. In Deschooling Society, he really makes the point that, in fact, schools do not treat children as human to some extent at all. It denies them the most basic claims of agency. Just thinking about that relationship, what relationship should our institutions have to individuals, was very, very important to me as a teenager and through my entire life. Is that why you didn’t join OpenAI in 2015?…

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