Lenny Rachitsky: evaluation

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…And you should have fun working with this technology. I think that's the other piece. I think the folks that would be most successful, regardless of their level, are people who love working with AI and are exploring and experimenting. And carving out the time, not just for the experimentation, but actually hands-on shipping end-to-end, getting the user feedback, I think has to be fundamental for everyone. I 100% know what you mean there. Just me sitting on my newsletter and this podcast just talking about stuff and like, yeah, yeah, that sounds great. Every time I actually build something, and I tinker with all kinds of little projects, you're just like, okay, I see what's happening here. And you just get so much more. It's hard to exactly describe what you experience actually working with the models and building stuff, but it's a whole different world of like, okay, I see. Here's what they're talking about computer use; here's what they're talking about with this limitation of this UX situation. And you made this really interesting point that you have to have fun with it, which is not easy for a lot of people because they're pushed to use AI or they just don't know exactly what to do with it. For people that are just like, I don't know, it's just so annoying. I just have to do this. I hate this frigging thing. Why do I have to work with this? Things are changing so much. I'm tired. Advice for helping people find that joy in this work. I think maybe I'll reemphasize something I said earlier around just that experimentation is not an individual sport. Some of the moments where I think I've touched practically every version of research models across 20-plus versions of Production Cloud at this point. And I think part of the joy comes from seeing other people discover use cases too. And so maybe one idea here would be pairing with somebody who is excited and seeing what on a use case that you care about and working together versus identifying or trying to figure out the perfect use case yourself because that might feel like work. Working with others feels like joy a lot of the time, and is there more that we could do to bring other people along? That's something a lot of times internally we have somebody who is very curious, and them sharing an idea of a new prototype actually brings a ton more people who are like, oh, I didn't know this could work now with Claude. And so there's just some virtuous cycles here and ways of continuing to have joy with this technology.…

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