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31 May 2026 Machine Learning Street Talk When AI Decides You're a Threat — Brad Carson
“I think, you know, this they had especially when deep sea was kind of making a name for itself, maybe the government liked it because they were making China a champion.”
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- 31 May 2026
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- Machine Learning Street Talk
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…when when DeepSeek released so much detail on their methodologies and, you know, these very, like, innovative innovative algorithms, right? Because, okay, here's China, you know, our our adversary, maybe they don't love their children, you know, like like, even the Russians love their children too. Wow. They they released all this this valuable, like, information to the public. You know, wasn't that pleasantly pleasantly surprising to you? And and what do you think it says about how China interacts, let's say, in this this world of AI with the West? I think it does say 2 things probably. 1 is, these companies are not coterminous with the Chinese Communist Party. You know, they're out in Hangzhou or somewhere doing their work. By all accounts, companies like Moonshot, you feel like you're in San Francisco. You know, all the rooms are named after Pink Floyd songs, and I think people are smoking pot. And, you know, I know I know that, like, the state apparatus is very powerful in China, but it's not identical. You know, this is not some kind of paramilitary unit that's doing, you know, doing things directly for the People's Liberation Army and stuff like that, Which isn't to say it's not dangerous and tricky. It's just like there is, you know, it's a complex society, you know, with an incredible history and amazing culture. And you can't just like have this, you know, uniform view that Xi Jinping announces some kind of dictat and the rest of the country all falls in line. Right? We know that's far from the truth. So I think that's part of it. I think, you know, this they had especially when deep sea was kind of making a name for itself, maybe the government liked it because they were making China a champion. You know? Suddenly, hey, China's in the game. You know? And that was an amazing thing for them to do. And in some ways, that's how the culture should be. It's like it used to be a world where people were all publishing their papers, sharing them around, like latest cool stuff. You know, in The US, we've gotten away from that as it's become more proprietary. So that's a good thing. China probably over time will retreat back to this more insulated standard that The US is now adhering to. But, yeah, think it does show this question of, like, know, what's happening in China is really remarkable. They have incredible engineers, a lot of ambition, data, plenty of energy. Energy is gonna be the bottleneck in The US probably. That's not a problem for them. And yeah, these companies are really incredible to watch. Well, certainly some of the best games these days are are coming out of Chinese studios. You know, they're they're phenomenal, producing phenomenal games. I'm glad you brought up, this is a this is kind of unrelated to to to the show topic, but, you know, you brought up, hey, it's this it's this massive culture that has this huge, you know, vibrant history. I think that's 1 thing that that I would like to encourage, you know, my fellow Americans to think about is that when you talk about China. So when a when a Chinese person hears the word China, they're not thinking about the CCP. Okay? They're thinking about this rich thousands of years of history that that that they've learned, that they know about. We only have a history of, you know, some hundreds of years. Right? And so, to the extent that we do wanna criticize things that, you know, the CCP is doing, it's always good to make that distinction. It's like, okay, there's these CCP policies or whatever,…
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