Evidence receipt / belief
Published · transcript-backedDylan Patel: belief
3 Feb 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #459 – DeepSeek, China, OpenAI, NVIDIA, xAI, TSMC, Stargate, and AI Megaclusters
“I think everyone has benefited regardless because the data’s on the internet. And therefore, it’s in your per training now.”
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- Dylan Patel
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- belief
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- 3 Feb 2025
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- Lex Fridman Podcast
Transcript context
…Do you think there’s any truth and value to the OpenAI’s claim that there’s evidence that China’s DeepSeek used this model to train? I think everyone has benefited regardless because the data’s on the internet. And therefore, it’s in your per training now. There are subreddits where people share the best ChatGPT outputs, and those are in your model- I think that they’re trying to shift the narrative. They’re trying to protect themselves. We saw this years ago when ByteDance was actually banned from some OpenAI APIs for training on outputs. There’s other AI startups that most people, if you’re in the AI culture, were like they just told us they trained on OpenAI outputs and they never got banned. That’s how they bootstrapped their early models. So, it’s much easier to get off the ground using this than to set up human pipelines and build a strong model. So there’s long history here, and a lot of the communications are seem like narrative [inaudible 03:31:00].…
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