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Logan Kilpatrick: belief

23 Feb 2023 Latent Space ChatGPT, GPT4 hype, and Building LLM-native products — with Logan Kilpatrick of OpenAI

“Yep. And that's, Counterintuitive part, and I think someone was trying to explain to me that it has to do with like Nvidia.”

— Logan Kilpatrick

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Speaker
Logan Kilpatrick
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belief
Recorded
23 Feb 2023
Publisher
Latent Space

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…I was thinking about the value of frameworks or like Lang Chain and Dust and what have you out there. I feel like there is some value to building those frameworks on top of OpenAI’s APIs. It kind of is building what's missing, essentially what, what you guys don't have. But it's kind of important in the software engineering sense, like you have this. Unpredictable, highly volatile thing, and you kind of need to build a stable foundation on top of it to make it more predictable, to build real software on top of it. That's a super interesting kind of engineering problem. . Yeah, it, it is interesting. It's also the, the added layer of this is that the large language models. Are inherently not deterministic. So I just, we just shipped a small documentation update today, which, which calls this out. And you think about APIs as like a traditional developer experience. I send some response. If the response is the same, I should get the same thing back every time. Unless like the data's updating and like a, from like a time perspective. But that's not the, that's not the case with the large language models, even with temperature zero. Mm-hmm. even with temperature zero. Yep. And that's, Counterintuitive part, and I think someone was trying to explain to me that it has to do with like Nvidia. Yeah. Floating points. Yes. GPU stuff. and like apparently the GPUs are just inherently non-deterministic. So like, yes, there's nothing we can do unless this high Torch relies on this as well. If you want to. Fix this. You're gonna have to tear it all down. ,…

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