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23 Jan 2026 Machine Learning Street Talk Abstraction & Idealization: AI's Plato Problem [Mazviita Chirimuuta]

“Like, we live in imaginative worlds, and it's not so much the social media is always in our face, well, maybe it is, people looking at the screens, but our way of thinking through our own life history and how we project and everything else, there's a whole world that we're also constructing around that. So I think we're co creating this digital world, and it it doesn't work unless we're imaginatively and emotionally invested in this.”

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…You know, there was that John Ronson book about you've been shamed or something like that, you know, basically saying that there's almost more controlling pressures in the social media world than there is in our physical world. Sure. Yeah. I mean, think all of that is possible because human beings are imaginative creatures. Like, we live in imaginative worlds, and it's not so much the social media is always in our face, well, maybe it is, people looking at the screens, but our way of thinking through our own life history and how we project and everything else, there's a whole world that we're also constructing around that. So I think we're co creating this digital world, and it it doesn't work unless we're imaginatively and emotionally invested in this. So my view goes back to this Kantian idea, which is also goes back to this idea of human finitude, that there's something wrong with thinking that what you are as a knower is the kind of being that can float free of your environment and just sort of regard it from above, and like take in all the information that's there as it is by itself without your impact on the world. And my point is that we're not those kinds of beings. We only acquire knowledge through this arduous process of interaction, which means that we cannot claim to have that god's eye neutral view on things, but that it would be It's a mistake about knowledge and about ourselves as knowers to think that that is an aspiration that makes sense for us. Is it possible for both things to be true at the same time? I'm not making any like weird claims that we're not actually really physically situated. But it's almost like we're increasingly disconnected in many aspects of our mental life.…

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