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Nathan Labenz: belief

23 Jun 2026 The Cognitive Revolution The God We Deserve: Nonzero's Robert Wright on AI as Humanity's Ultimate Test

“You know, they, that may start to change as they hopefully get a little more serious about their policies around internal deployments as well. But even that is, like, I think un- dramatically underappreciated by the public at large that, like, all this kind of, you know, harmless tr- harmlessness training that they have is the product of a lot of hard work and a very intentional design choice, and it definitely doesn't have to be that way, and in fact, it'd probably be simpler to just, like, get it to do, you know, the task.”

— Nathan Labenz

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Nathan Labenz
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belief
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23 Jun 2026
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

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…Mm-hmm. It feels both like not much time has passed and like, you know, eons have passed somehow in, in four years. But, you know, that, that model was simply the purely helpful model that would do whatever you asked it to do with no, no training around refusing or, you know, thinking, "Hey, maybe this isn't a good idea." It was just do whatever the user asks. And even that, you know, that, and that's common inside the, the frontier companies, at least I think it has been to date. You know, they, that may start to change as they hopefully get a little more serious about their policies around internal deployments as well. But even that is, like, I think un- dramatically underappreciated by the public at large that, like, all this kind of, you know, harmless tr- harmlessness training that they have is the product of a lot of hard work and a very intentional design choice, and it definitely doesn't have to be that way, and in fact, it'd probably be simpler to just, like, get it to do, you know, the task. Mm-hmm.…

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