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Keith Duggar: belief

31 May 2026 Machine Learning Street Talk When AI Decides You're a Threat — Brad Carson

“I think that's 1 thing that that I would like to encourage, you know, my fellow Americans to think about is that when you talk about China.”

— Keith Duggar

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Keith Duggar
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31 May 2026
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Machine Learning Street Talk

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…I think it does say 2 things probably. 1 is, these companies are not coterminous with the Chinese Communist Party. You know, they're out in Hangzhou or somewhere doing their work. By all accounts, companies like Moonshot, you feel like you're in San Francisco. You know, all the rooms are named after Pink Floyd songs, and I think people are smoking pot. And, you know, I know I know that, like, the state apparatus is very powerful in China, but it's not identical. You know, this is not some kind of paramilitary unit that's doing, you know, doing things directly for the People's Liberation Army and stuff like that, Which isn't to say it's not dangerous and tricky. It's just like there is, you know, it's a complex society, you know, with an incredible history and amazing culture. And you can't just like have this, you know, uniform view that Xi Jinping announces some kind of dictat and the rest of the country all falls in line. Right? We know that's far from the truth. So I think that's part of it. I think, you know, this they had especially when deep sea was kind of making a name for itself, maybe the government liked it because they were making China a champion. You know? Suddenly, hey, China's in the game. You know? And that was an amazing thing for them to do. And in some ways, that's how the culture should be. It's like it used to be a world where people were all publishing their papers, sharing them around, like latest cool stuff. You know, in The US, we've gotten away from that as it's become more proprietary. So that's a good thing. China probably over time will retreat back to this more insulated standard that The US is now adhering to. But, yeah, think it does show this question of, like, know, what's happening in China is really remarkable. They have incredible engineers, a lot of ambition, data, plenty of energy. Energy is gonna be the bottleneck in The US probably. That's not a problem for them. And yeah, these companies are really incredible to watch. Well, certainly some of the best games these days are are coming out of Chinese studios. You know, they're they're phenomenal, producing phenomenal games. I'm glad you brought up, this is a this is kind of unrelated to to to the show topic, but, you know, you brought up, hey, it's this it's this massive culture that has this huge, you know, vibrant history. I think that's 1 thing that that I would like to encourage, you know, my fellow Americans to think about is that when you talk about China. So when a when a Chinese person hears the word China, they're not thinking about the CCP. Okay? They're thinking about this rich thousands of years of history that that that they've learned, that they know about. We only have a history of, you know, some hundreds of years. Right? And so, to the extent that we do wanna criticize things that, you know, the CCP is doing, it's always good to make that distinction. It's like, okay, there's these CCP policies or whatever, very different from the people of China. Right? Yeah. 100%. I mean, Chinese culture is remarkable. The history is extraordinary. Yeah. Their contributions to the world are amazing. And so Phenomenal. You know. Yes. It's important to recognize the CCP is not China. And, you know, like it is in The US, where everyone thinks of the current the current president. And you come to Oklahoma, it's like a different world. And, you know Right. Very people have very different views about it. We're not homogeneous, you know, and have a single view about anything. It's a very complicated place. I'm sure China is. And, you know, and so I think, if anything, we should, like, learn lessons from what they're doing there and venerate what they have achieved as a culture, you know, without any love for the CCP, of course, or any illusions about, you know, what Xi's ambitions might be that could be inimical to those at The US. But 1 can only, like, hold a candle and say, you know, China's an extraordinary place, an amazing culture.…

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