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Lenny Rachitsky: belief

29 Mar 2026 Lenny's Podcast From skeptic to true believer: How OpenClaw changed my life | Claire Vo

“Just like I think the fun of it is so important. I think people don't get just like you try it and it's actually fun.”

— Lenny Rachitsky

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Lenny Rachitsky
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belief
Recorded
29 Mar 2026
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Lenny's Podcast

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…Yeah. And behind it is a kind of coding harness named Pi. And so behind the scenes, it's something very similar to a Claude Code. It's something very similar to a Codex. It's a command line tool that writes and runs code and talks to you through an LLM. It just has some very interesting components to it that have changed the user experience to be, I think, much more delightful and much more customizable. Just like I think the fun of it is so important. I think people don't get just like you try it and it's actually fun. And you see all these people on social media talking about it, "I've never had more fun, even though I'm working harder than I've ever worked. I'm having so much fun." And I think products like this are part of the reason. It's just fun to use OpenClaw. Yeah. And I'll give this tip to some of the big large language model providers out there and these broad consumer products like ChatGPT, like Claude is, I don't know if you've experienced this, you see, for example, working with ChatGPT and every new chat ends with, "If you want me to, I can tell you this mystery, like this next step." And you feel like you're being growth hacked into the next step, the next query, or Claude will say, "If I were you, the next steps would be bullet point one, two, and three." And it's sort of like this product experience that's very hardened to get you to engage with the chatbot. And my experience with OpenClaw is its closers are much nicer. Even if you look at that Howie example, he doesn't say, "If you want me to, I can write Al an email and make sure that you're prepped for this." He says, "This sounds like a fun podcast for you. Enjoy it. This sounds like a good one." When I'm talking, I was talking about getting the kids to a doctor's appointment recently and Fin said something like, "Hope oldest kid feels better." I was like, "I hope he feels better too. That's really nice." And you look at how it's prompted and it's just very human in how its identity has been crafted. And this is not magic. It's not a secret. It's literally in a file. You can go read it. But something about that system prompt is very effective at engagement without growth hacks, and that feels nice for somebody you're employing.…

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