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Joe Carlsmith: uncertainty

22 Aug 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Joe Carlsmith — Preventing an AI takeover

“If you imagine that you try to have full knowledge of what the future of the universe will be like…” I don't know.”

— Joe Carlsmith

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Joe Carlsmith
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uncertainty
Recorded
22 Aug 2024
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Your dad’s a physicist though, right? Yeah but this isn't coming from my dad. There's a blog post by Sean Carroll or something. He's like, "We really understand a lot of the physics that governs the everyday world. We're really good at a lot of it.” I'm generally pretty impressed by physics as a discipline. That could well be right. On the other hand these guys had a few centuries. But I think that's interesting and it leads to something different. There's something about the endless frontier. There is a draw to that from an aesthetic perspective of the idea of continuing to discover stuff. At the least, I think you can't get full knowledge. There's some way in which you're part of the system. The knowledge itself is part of the system. If you imagine that you try to have full knowledge of what the future of the universe will be like…” I don't know. I'm not totally sure that's true. It has a halting problem kind of property, right?…

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