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Charan Ranganath: uncertainty

25 May 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #430 – Charan Ranganath: Human Memory, Imagination, Deja Vu, and False Memories

“I mean, I would argue that maybe, who knows, I don’t know this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if people in hunter-gatherer societies are happier.”

— Charan Ranganath

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Speaker
Charan Ranganath
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uncertainty
Recorded
25 May 2024
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Exactly. I mean, there’s something in humans that loves complaining, even about trivial things. But complaining about change, complaining about everything. But ultimately, I think, on net, every measure, things are getting better, life is getting better. Oh, life is getting better. But I don’t know that necessarily that attracts people’s happiness, right? I mean, I would argue that maybe, who knows, I don’t know this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if people in hunter-gatherer societies are happier. I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re happier than people who have access to modern medicine and email and cellphones. Well, I don’t think there’s a question whether you take hunter-gatherer folks and put them into modern day and give them enough time to adapt, they would be much happier. The question is, in terms of every single problem they’ve had, is now solved. There’s now food, there’s guaranteed survival, and shelter and all this kind of stuff. So, what you’re asking is a deeper sort of biological question, do we want to be… Werner Herzog and the movie Happy People: Life in the Taiga, do we want to be busy 100% of our time hunting, gathering, surviving, worried about the next day? Maybe that constant struggle ultimately creates a more fulfilling life. I don’t know. But I do know this modern society allows us to, when we’re sick, to find medicine, to find cures, when we’re hungry, to get food, much more than we did even a hundred years ago. And there’s many more activities that you could perform, all creative, all these kinds of stuff that enables the flourishing of humans at the individual level. Whether that leads to happiness, I mean, that’s a very deep philosophical question. Maybe struggle, deep struggle is necessary for happiness.…

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