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Michelle Rial: preference

12 Mar 2026 Lenny's Podcast How I built a 1M+ subscriber newsletter and top 10 tech podcast | Lenny Rachitsky

“Sometimes what I like to make is things that are really simple and quick and show you something you haven't thought of before and I think that if it's really easy to digest.”

— Michelle Rial

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Michelle Rial
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preference
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12 Mar 2026
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Lenny's Podcast

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…It wasn't even a digital high quality pictures, just like some written photo, yeah. Yeah, which is interesting as well. Also, people's attention spans. Sometimes what I like to make is things that are really simple and quick and show you something you haven't thought of before and I think that if it's really easy to digest. People's attention spans are short these days. And if it makes them feel something is another thing. It's also nice to make something that isn't a lot of physical labor because some things you can make and it can take you forever to draw out because my brain does work in this overthinking kind of way of like this, but then oh this, and then this. People like it when it's really simple. Yeah, yeah. I love your point about like the way you know a chart is done is intrinsically you feeling like this is hilarious, this makes you laugh, makes you feel something. It's similar to the way I think about my newsletter post. Yeah, more the newsletter than the podcast is it just, to me it feels like this is really interesting and really good. It's very like not waiting for other people to give you approval or feedback. It's like I feel this is good. I think that's really interesting that that's similar to the way I approach my stuff. I find that when you work on your charts, you think so many levels deep. They're like too clever sometimes, and I have to like pull... Because to your point, people have a short attention span. Sometimes they're like too clever and I have to like, okay, this is too many layers you have to understand. I have to like, that's a little much. You have to simplify it a little bit. Yeah.…

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