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11 Jun 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Francois Chollet — Why the biggest AI models can't solve simple puzzles
“" As a human living your life, in most situations you already know what to do because you've been in this situation before.”
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- Francois Chollet
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- 11 Jun 2024
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- Dwarkesh Podcast
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…Training in the environment that human ancestors were trained in means you learn those circuits. If you train on the same kinds of outputs that humans produce — which to replicate, requires these kinds of circuits — wouldn't that train the same thing that is whatever humans have? It's a matter of degree. If you have a system that has a memory and is only capable of doing local generalization from that, it's not going to be very adaptable. To be really general, you need the memory plus the ability to search to quite some depth to achieve broader and even extreme generalization. One of my favorite psychologists is Jean Piaget, the founder of developmental psychology. He had a very good quote about intelligence. He said, "intelligence is what you use when you don't know what to do. " As a human living your life, in most situations you already know what to do because you've been in this situation before. You already have the answer. You're only going to need to use intelligence when you're faced with novelty, with something you didn't expect. It’s something that you weren't prepared for, either by your own life experience or your evolutionary history. This day that you're living right now is different in some important ways from every day you've lived before. It's also different from any day ever lived by any of your ancestors. You're still capable of being functional. How is that possible? I'm not denying that generalization is extremely important and the basis for intelligence. That's not the crux. The crux is how much of that is happening in the models. Okay, let me ask a separate question about the differences in intelligence between humans. Maybe because of the reasons you mentioned, the intelligence tests are not measuring it well. But clearly there's differences in intelligence between different humans. What is your explanation for what's going on there? That's sort of compatible with my story. There's a spectrum of generality and these models are climbing up to a human level. Even some humans haven't even climbed up to the Einstein level or the François level.…
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