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20 May 2026 The Cognitive Revolution The Model Eats the Scaffolding: DeepMind's Logan Kilpatrick & Tulsee Doshi on 3.5 Flash, Omni & More
“I think the other part though is like, how does deep research do so well or how can we use the model in search is because we also have the model search, right?”
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- Tulsee Doshi
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- 20 May 2026
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…Can I categorize this as a bug? This is also one of Logan's favorite topics to discuss. Yeah, I mean, I think updating the knowledge cutoff definitely important and something that is on our radar. I think the other part though is like, how does deep research do so well or how can we use the model in search is because we also have the model search, right? So I think for us it is like really important actually that the model be able to know when to leverage its parametric knowledge versus when to actually go out and get the information from the web. And especially because there is information that's as fresh as an hour ago or a minute ago, we want the model to be as up to date as possible. And so I think for us, we've been really leaning into how do we help the model search effectively. And that's a big part of what makes it successful in the context of search or the app, or even anti-gravity actually for that matter. That reminds me of one of the more surprising bits of news that I've seen from Google maybe ever, which is the partnership with EXA, bringing EXA in as a alternative to Google for grounding. I never expected to see Google work with any other search provider. So what's the story behind that?…
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