Robert Lange: belief

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…This is particularly relevant because, you know, you were behind the AI scientist paper and there's now version 2 of that. Allow me to be a tiny bit skeptical. You know, we were talking about when we evolve systems to do a to do a particular thing. And at the moment, it feels like as good as they are, they are still quite parasitic on the instructions and intentions of the human supervisor. So it's very much an exchange between the humans and the system. Because the implication is that in the future, we might have systems that are so autonomous and so open endedness and can figure out valuable things to research that humans wouldn't be needed anymore. And the reason why I'm not that worried yet about labor market disruption is I still believe deeply that humans are the source of deep understanding and creativity in the world. If I didn't believe that, I would be very worried. I agree. To me, like the AI scientists like v 1 and now v 2 are sort of glimpses into a potential transformation. But I fully agree in order to make really big scientific breakthroughs, like multiple of them, like, every day or whatever, you still need humans in the loop to sort of either seed or guide the direction in which to explore or to to verify, check, and actually, yeah, transfer these insights. Right? So I think it's not gonna be like all ML PhDs will will be unemployed. It's it's more gonna be a sort of core evolution of humans with this technology and potentially, like, in an ideal future for me, like, it will allow humans to focus on what they're really, really great at. Right? So I think it's gonna be an amplifier of sort of these these latent dimensions humans are great at. Right? I think something that's critical is that we as humans try to interact with these systems as early as possible in order to actually, like, have influence and ownership over, like, this development process. Right? It's ultimately collective intelligence that will shape all of these systems together. And do you think these systems can become incredibly sophisticated such that they are, you know, somewhat detached from humans?…

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