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Published · transcript-backedAndrew Ambrosino: belief
28 Jun 2026 Lenny's Podcast OpenAI Codex lead on the new shape of product work | Andrew Ambrosino
“I think in the future though, this has been a core problem with the chatbot shape, is that I know how to set this up.”
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- Andrew Ambrosino
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- 28 Jun 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…Amazing. I think in the future though, this has been a core problem with the chatbot shape, is that I know how to set this up. I have time to set this up because for me, it's product discovery to set it up. But if you're not working at OpenAI, not developing this, you don't want to have to figure out all this stuff. We need to figure out that shape of things. Yeah. What I'm hearing here is I don't think people realize that your app can act a lot like OpenClaw, people were so excited about. You just talk to it, set up this thing, check on this thing for me every day, and then tell me what's going on.…
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