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Karri Saarinen: belief

8 Oct 2023 Lenny's Podcast Inside Linear: Building with taste, craft, and focus | Karri Saarinen (co-founder, designer, CEO)

“Probably the only thing I would say is it's the hiring front that you really need to spend more time on it.”

— Karri Saarinen

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Speaker
Karri Saarinen
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belief
Recorded
8 Oct 2023
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…For teams that want to try this approach, especially startups that are starting out and maybe not excited about hiring product managers, is there anything else that you think is essential or important to functioning well without any product managers? You're at around 50 people at this point? We're around 50. Probably the only thing I would say is it's the hiring front that you really need to spend more time on it. Basically, you cannot really interview engineers only for the engineering skills. You also have to interview them for the product skills. Obviously, you cannot I think expect that people have some. If you do some PM interview for them, they're not going to have the same skillset or the same understanding of the concepts or something. The way we have done it in the past is basically I might interview them about the product. I'm not a technical person per se. I will just ask them questions about how did they do something or how do they think about something? It's similar to other roles too. We just look for does this person have opinions about products and how they work? Can they form opinions and can they use their own judgment at times? Then, can they communicate or articulate those things as well? Awesome, I was just thinking it's interesting that a tool that, I don't think it's designed specifically for product managers, but essentially for building products like the infrastructure for building product in a team is built by a company that has one PM and very few PMs.…

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