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Nathan Lambert: belief

1 Feb 2026 Lex Fridman Podcast #490 – State of AI in 2026: LLMs, Coding, Scaling Laws, China, Agents, GPUs, AGI

“I think the question is if the companies can support the valuations. I’d see the AI companies being looked at in some ways like AWS, Azure, and GCP, which are all competing in the same space and all very successful businesses.”

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Nathan Lambert
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belief
Recorded
1 Feb 2026
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…I think Google is always ready to say, “Hold my beer,” with AI mode. I think the question is if the companies can support the valuations. I’d see the AI companies being looked at in some ways like AWS, Azure, and GCP, which are all competing in the same space and all very successful businesses. There’s a chance that the API market is so unprofitable that they go up and down the stack to products and hardware. They have so much cash that they can build power plants and build data centers, which is a durable advantage now. But there’s also just a reasonable outcome that these APIs are so valuable and so flexible for developers that they become the likes of something like AWS. But AWS and Azure are also going to have these APIs, so five or six people competing in the API market is hard. So maybe that’s why they get squeezed out. You mentioned “RIP LLaMA.” Is there a path to winning for Meta?…

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