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Published · transcript-backedEdwin Chen: belief
7 Dec 2025 Lenny's Podcast The 100-person AI lab that became Anthropic and Google's secret weapon | Edwin Chen (Surge AI)
“I think Anthropic takes a very principled view about what they do and don't care about and how they want their models to behave in a way that feels a lot more principle to me.”
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- Edwin Chen
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- 7 Dec 2025
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…I know you probably can't play favorites since you work with all the labs. Is there anyone doing better at this and maybe kind of realizing this is the wrong direction? I would say I've always been very impressed by Anthropic. I think Anthropic takes a very principled view about what they do and don't care about and how they want their models to behave in a way that feels a lot more principle to me. Interesting. Are there any other big mistakes you think labs are making just that are kind of slowing things down or heading in the wrong direction? Where we've heard just chasing benchmarks, this engagement focus, is there anything else you're seeing of just like, "Okay, we got to work on this because it'll speed everything up"?…
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