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Demis Hassabis: recommendation

28 Feb 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Demis Hassabis — Scaling, superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, AlphaFold

“I think that’s actually one of the areas where a lot more research needs to be done, the kind of mechanistic analysis of the representations that these systems build up.”

— Demis Hassabis

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Demis Hassabis
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28 Feb 2024
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…And can you see the sort of mechanistic way, in the language and code example, in which you’ve found the place in a neural network that’s getting better with both the language and the code? Or is that too far down the weeds? I don’t think our analysis techniques are quite sophisticated enough to be able to hone in on that. I think that’s actually one of the areas where a lot more research needs to be done, the kind of mechanistic analysis of the representations that these systems build up. I sometimes like to call it virtual brain analytics. In a way, it’s a bit like doing fMRI, or single-cell recording from a real brain. What are the analogous analysis techniques for these artificial minds? There’s a lot of great work going on in this sort of stuff. People like Chris Olah, I really like his work. I think a lot of computational neuroscience techniques can be brought to bear on analyzing the current systems we’re building. In fact, I try to encourage a lot of my computational neuroscience friends to start thinking in that direction and applying their know-how to the large models. What do other AI researchers not understand about human intelligence that you have some sort of insight on, given your neuroscience background?…

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