Nathan Labenz: observation

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…hat pattern might say, "I am concerned someone could use this strategy in a different context to extract the weaknesses of code, of a code base by inferring them from the fix," right? Like, this is... I hadn't previously seen this detailed of a description, but you know, my reaction to that is, yeah, this, this seems pretty harmless unless you can show me a particular way in which this is a problem, which should be very, very easy to do because you can point it at a real world example where you know that Opus didn't find it and you know that Fable, that Mythos, Mythos preview or current Mythos did. There should be many such cases. And if you can't show me such a case, then I don't believe you that this is a problem. But also, like, what is the fix, right? Is the fix that you refuse to fix buggy code? That like, you know, if there's a flaw in your code, it just says, "Okay, I'm not allowed to look for security flaws in code anymore at all." 'Cause you could do that, right? But that would kind of nuke the usefulness of Fable for a wide variety of very legitimate, not just defensive, but just ordinary software use. And so, and to be clear, I would rather have Fable that just won't code than not have Fable, right? Like, I would, I would love, you know, to have a really advanced model for all my other things that have nothing to do with code where this wouldn't trigger anyway. But that does seem, like, deeply, deeply silly. So how did a 90-minute Friday night ultimatum actually come together? Zvi has the mechanical story. A mandatory jailbreak reporting field, a non-technical reviewer, a panic that climbed all the way to the White House, and a blunt verdict on the one move he thinks Dario got wrong. My understanding is that a lot of the problem, or potentially one major source of the problem, is this particular researcher, the White House strongly dislikes her.…

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