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Edwin Chen: belief

7 Dec 2025 Lenny's Podcast The 100-person AI lab that became Anthropic and Google's secret weapon | Edwin Chen (Surge AI)

“I think there is a question of what products they're building and whether those products themselves are something that kind of help or hurt humanity.”

— Edwin Chen

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Edwin Chen
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belief
Recorded
7 Dec 2025
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…Interesting. Are there any other big mistakes you think labs are making just that are kind of slowing things down or heading in the wrong direction? Where we've heard just chasing benchmarks, this engagement focus, is there anything else you're seeing of just like, "Okay, we got to work on this because it'll speed everything up"? I think there is a question of what products they're building and whether those products themselves are something that kind of help or hurt humanity. I think a lot about Sora and... I was thinking that's what you're imagining.…

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