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Simon Last: belief

15 Apr 2026 Latent Space Notion’s Token Town: 5 Rebuilds, 100+ Tools, MCP vs CLIs and the Software Factory Future — Simon Last & Sarah Sachs of Notion

“I think we’re sort of just moving up the abstraction ladder and then the human role becomes more about observing and maintaining the outer system.”

— Simon Last

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Simon Last
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belief
Recorded
15 Apr 2026
Publisher
Latent Space

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…Exactly. I mean, I think the way things are going is like we’re on some continuum where. If, if you look back three years ago, humans were typing all the code and then we had auto complete, you’re typing list of the code. Then we had sort of like filling agents, filling lines, and now we’re getting into like agents doing longer range tasks where you can debug and implement a fix and then verify it works and you know, get your, get your PR even like, like Merion deployed. I think we’re sort of just moving up the abstraction ladder and then the human role becomes more about observing and maintaining the outer system. There’s a string of agents flowing through, like me prs what’s going off the rails. Like what do I need to approve? Is there like a learning or memory mechanism that that works? So it’s kind of a hard engineering problem. There’s a, you know, there’s, there’s a lot to do there. I think we’re just sort of moving up stack the same transition machine learning engineers have made, right? Like I haven’t looked at a PR curve in a while.…

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