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21 Feb 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Patrick Collison — Why Silicon Valley's most talented should leave

“Stripe would be a less effective company without either of us. And I'm just meaning from a bandwidth standpoint, but I think we both bring different things to bear.”

— Patrick Collison

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Patrick Collison
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belief
Recorded
21 Feb 2024
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…What have you learned about marriage from John? This co-equal, intense, lengthy partnership — the closest thing to that you have is marriage, right? Well, I'm relatively new to the practice of marriage. So maybe in a decade I'll be able to extract the generalizable commonalities. The general thing I'd say is: working with people you're close to is underrated. I'm doing Arc with Patrick Su and Silvana. Fast Grants was with Tyler and Silvana. Stripe is obviously with John. I should mention, John was also instrumentally involved in Arc's formation. It would not have happened without John. I could give more examples, but I feel like all the ventures of any significance in my life, have not only been with others, but been with other people that I'm very close to. I had and would like to have an enduring relationship that outlives these ventures. Sometimes one hears the advice that you shouldn't work with friends, maybe you shouldn't work with your partner or something like that. All these things are idiosyncratic and there are instances of every possible permutation. But for me, it's been a really rewarding experience. And I think John and I can work together for... You never know life, but I think we'll probably work together for decades. For us, it's been both an important source of meaning and, again, fulfillment, but also there's a real complementarity. Stripe would be a less effective company without either of us. And I'm just meaning from a bandwidth standpoint, but I think we both bring different things to bear. Patrick, I think that's a great place to leave it. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast.…

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