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31 Oct 2023 Dwarkesh Podcast Paul Christiano — Preventing an AI takeover

“First things would go badly without it. But I think if you ask, why don't we turn off the AI, my best guess is because there are a bunch of other AIS running around 2D or lunch.”

— Paul Christiano

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Paul Christiano
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31 Oct 2023
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…Okay, so how much does this world rely on race dynamics where we're forced to deploy or not forced, but we choose to deploy AIS because other countries or other companies are also deploying AIS. And you can't have them have all the killer robots. Yeah, I mean, I think that there's several levels of answer to that question. So one is like, maybe 3 parts of my like our first part is like, I'm just trying to tell what seems like the most likely story. I do think there's further failures that get you in the more distant future. So IG eliezer will not talk that much about killer robots because he really wants to emphasize, like, hey, if you never built a killer robot, something crazy is still going to happen to you just like, only 4 months later or whatever. So it's not really the way to analyze the failure. But if you want to ask what's the median world where something bad happens, I still do think this is the best guess. Okay, so that's like, part one of my answer. Part two of the answer was, like, in this proximal situation where something bad is happening, and you ask like, hey, why do humans not turn off the AI. You can imagine, like, two kinds of story. One is like the AI. Is able to prevent humans from turning them off, and the other is like, in fact, we live in a world where it's incredibly challenging. Like, there's a bunch of competitive dynamics or a bunch of reliance on AI systems. And so it's incredibly expensive to turn off AI systems. I think, again, you would eventually have the first problem. Like, eventually AI systems could just prevent humans from turning them off. But I think in practice, the one that's going to happen much, much sooner is probably competition amongst different actors using AI. And it's very, very expensive to unilaterally disarm. You can't be like, something weird has happened. We're just going to shut off all the AI because you're e g in a hot war. So again, I think that's just probably the most likely thing to happen. First things would go badly without it. But I think if you ask, why don't we turn off the AI, my best guess is because there are a bunch of other AIS running around 2D or lunch. So how much better a situation would we be in if there was only one group that was pursuing AI. No other countries, no other companies. Basically, how much of the expected value is lost from the dynamics that are likely to come about because other people will be developing and deploying these systems?…

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