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Sholto Douglas: uncertainty

28 Mar 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken — How LLMs actually think

“I don't know if you guys have read that article about Jeff and Sanjay, but they were there pair programming on stuff.”

— Sholto Douglas

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Sholto Douglas
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Recorded
28 Mar 2024
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Dwarkesh Podcast

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…So this includes people like Sergey Brin, Jeff Dean, and so forth. I mean, it's notable. I feel like Google is undervalued. Like Steve Jobs is working on the equivalent next product for Apple and pair programming on it or something… Right, I've benefited immensely from it. So for example, during the Christmas break, I was going into the office for a couple of days during that time. I don't know if you guys have read that article about Jeff and Sanjay, but they were there pair programming on stuff. I got to hear about all these cool stories of early Google where they're talking about crawling under the floorboards and rewiring data centers and telling me how many bytes they were pulling off the instructions of a given compiler and instruction, all these crazy little performance optimizations they were doing. They were having the time of their life and I got to sit there and really experience this. There's a sense of history that you expect to be very far away from in a large organization, but… That's super cool. And Trenton, does this map onto any of your experience?…

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