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25 Jan 2023 Conversations with Tyler Paul Salopek on Walking the World
“Cape Town was the San Francisco of South Africa, the place that the tourists flock to, and Johannesburg the place they avoided. But the grit of Johannesburg, the very toughness of it, the very hardiness of it — it was one of these places that you admire because it is real.”
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- Paul Salopek
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- 25 Jan 2023
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- Conversations with Tyler
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…People say it’s too dangerous. Yes. I’ve got to say, it’s been a long time since I’ve been there, and I’d be curious to know how things are going. I think I’ve been away from Johannesburg since 2009, so that’s a ways back, but it was the unbeautiful sibling of Cape Town. Cape Town was the San Francisco of South Africa, the place that the tourists flock to, and Johannesburg the place they avoided. But the grit of Johannesburg, the very toughness of it, the very hardiness of it — it was one of these places that you admire because it is real. It’s not boutiquefied, was what made me love my years there. That said, I used it, Tyler, as a base, so I was often away. I would come back to Johannesburg to recharge, but I was often away, maybe half the time of every year — if not more — traveling in Africa, covering other stories. Eventually, to get to Tierra del Fuego, how exactly will you cross into the New World?…
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