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Lenny Rachitsky: belief

10 Nov 2022 Lenny's Podcast How to fire people with grace, work through fear, and nurture innovation | Matt Mochary (CEO coach)

“Awesome. And anger and fear, I think there's different pieces of advice for if you feel angry versus fear.”

— Lenny Rachitsky

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Lenny Rachitsky
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belief
Recorded
10 Nov 2022
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Lenny's Podcast

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…Yeah, so we iterated, I at times feel anger and I act on that anger and I don't even realize I'm in anger, so I wanted her to let me know, and so she would say, at first she said, "You're in anger," and that just made me feel accused and made me go into more anger. And then she said, "Are you in anger?" And that felt passive aggressive or indirect and that also made me go into more anger. Then finally she said, "I perceive you to be an anger." So it's an I statement and it's simply what she's perceiving. There's no judgment. That was able to punch through my anger and then I woke up and went, oh, and then I stopped and just didn't act until I was able to shift out of anger. Awesome. And anger and fear, I think there's different pieces of advice for if you feel angry versus fear. Is that right? Yes. I mean, anger, you're just destroying and what you're doing is you're destroying relationships and so you just got to stop because you're breaking glass. Of course, you're breaking it with the people who are closest to you. They're the people who are nearest to you, which are the people you love and care about the most. They're not only people you work with, but they're the people you live with and you don't want to do that. You don't want to hurt them.…

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