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Published · transcript-backedAlison Gopnik: belief
17 Dec 2025 Conversations with Tyler Alison Gopnik on Childhood Learning, AI as a Cultural Technology, and Rethinking Nature vs. Nurture
“I think the fact that they’re so good in this mysterious way at picking up patterns and reproducing patterns — that’s clearly a really important thing that these technologies can do, but that’s not what humans are doing, and it’s not even what animal agents are doing.”
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- 17 Dec 2025
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- Conversations with Tyler
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…They do much more than that. It’s clear they look at data on the web, but the people I speak to who build them say it’s not transparent, even to them, exactly how the thing works, but as they apply more scaling, it gets better and better at its own reasoning. There’s 01, there’s 03, now there’s GPT-5. GPT-6 is on the way. The scaling just seems to give it more ability to do actual reasoning of a unique sort that’s not just copying the reasoning of some human. Well, that’s the question. I think the fact that they’re so good in this mysterious way at picking up patterns and reproducing patterns — that’s clearly a really important thing that these technologies can do, but that’s not what humans are doing, and it’s not even what animal agents are doing. So, I would be impressed if they were actually designing experiments that would tell you something about something new that was going on in the world that all the other people around them didn’t know before. They do that in biology already, right?…
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