Brad Carson: belief

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…And I think the Department of War would, you know, happily accede to those new rules. There is this concentration risk. Right? There's a as you said, there's a handful of people and some hundreds of, you know, people that really are the backbone of of this, you know, emerging and vital. You you kind of advocate for more distribution of that that capability. At least that it would be good if there was, you know, more competition and more more development. Is that right? No. I think, you know, there are forces in each direction. The concentration of companies, both in the semiconductor supply chain as well as in the kind of frontier model, said it makes regulation quite easy. You know, if if EUV machines were made in 50 different countries, China would have 1000000 of them today and be cranking out 2 nanometer chips. The fact that there's 1 company making it allows The US to throttle that in some ways. And so, yes, the kind of concentration oligopoly across that supply chain, the fact that there's really 5 frontier labs, maybe even just 3 if you really want to look closely at it, makes regulation easy. And to the extent I'm scared about the capabilities, that's a that's a feature. Of course, I think a huge worry of mine is this concentration of power and wealth, right, in a very few people. And that's why, you know, over the last few years, things like open sourcing, which has risks as well, I think net net is a good thing because this concentration of wealth and power is is so kind of preening to me. I'm so concerned about that particular aspect. Same too. You have more companies. Competition drives capability. You know, if we only had 1 OpenAI, you can have Anthropic and Google, right, the product would probably be a lot less, you know, featureful than it is today. Right? Their competition has improved the product immeasurably. And so competition helps improve the product. I think it also helps distribute the power. Right? I don't want 1 or 2 people with incredible wealth and power. I think that's just a dangerous thing. We have enough of that in this country without the AI guys coming and joining the fray. Let me talk to you a bit about the open source angle, because and I'm not I'm I'm not necessarily an expert, but I if I remember correctly in reading some of the regulations that that California, you know, was trying to introduce, like in in AI, it would have basically made anybody that had a GitHub, you know, project that was accessible to somebody in California would have to like comply with, you know, regulations that that they had passed. Like, I think that's that's correct. And is that a good thing? I mean, that seems to stifle…

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