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Mentions personal use of DevIn.

2 Aug 2024 Latent Space The Winds of AI Winter (Q2 Four Wars Recap) + ChatGPT Voice Mode Preview

“I used to tell people go to the DevIn demo and look at the four things that they offer and say each of those things is a startup.”

— Shawn Wang

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Shawn Wang
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2 Aug 2024
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…I think that makes sense to me that moving away from just semantic similarity, I think it's the most important because people use the same word with very different meanings, especially when talking. When writing it's different, but yeah. Yeah, the other direction that vector databases have gone into, which Lance DB presented at my conference, was multimodality. So Character AI uses Lance DB for multimodal embeddings. That's just a minor difference. I don't think that's like a quantum leap in terms of what a vector database does for you. The other thing that I see in LMOS world is mostly the evolution of just the ecosystem of agents, right? The agents talking to other agents and coordinating with other agents. So I interviewed Graham Newbig at iClear and he since announced that they are pivoting OpenDevIn or broadening OpenDevIn into All Hands AI. I'm not sure about that name, but it is one of the three LMOS startups that got funded in the past two months that I know about and maybe you know more. They're all building this ecosystem of agents working with other agents and all this tooling for agents. To me, it makes more sense. It is probably the biggest thing I missed in doing the four wars. The need for startups to build this ecosystem thing up, right? So the big categories have been taken. Search, done. Code interpreter, done. There's a long tail of others. So memory is emerging. Then there's like other stuff. And so they're focusing on that. So to me, browser is slightly different from search and Browserbase is another company I invested in that is focused on that, but they're not the only one in that category by any means. I used to tell people go to the DevIn demo and look at the four things that they offer and say each of those things is a startup. DevIn, since then, they spoke at the conference as well. Scott was super nice to me and actually gave me some personal time as well. They have an updated chart of their plans. Look at their plans. They have like 16 things. Each of those things is a potential startup now. And that is the LMOS. Everyone is building towards that direction because they need it to do what they need to do as an agent. If you believe in the agent's future, you need all these things. Yeah. You think the HNOS is its own company? Do you think it's an open standard? Do you think?…

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